Thursday, July 30, 2009

Part 2: Jacob & His Nemesis On The Beach

Just a little FYI, these 4 parts were the foundation for the post Lost SOLVED, so if you've read that, there's no reason to read through these...it's pretty much just evidence I had gathered.

A) What We Know of Jacob From The Beach:


a)Jacob allows the fish to enter the trap on it’s own, he does not actively hunt the fish, the fish is brought into the wading pool by the rising tide and chooses to enter the trap on it’s own.
b) Jacob offers to share his only fish with Nemesis.
c) Jacob invites people to the Island, repeatedly.
d) Jacob does not believe that people who visit the Island will always fight, destroy, and corrupt. He believes this cycle will come to an end, and that it ‘only ends once’. Everything else is just progress...which implies that each time someone visits, Jacob believes ‘the end’ is getting nearer. It is not stagnant and hopeless, this is a very optimistic view of man. He believes in growth, evolution, change, and progress.
e) Jacob has an idea how bad Nemesis wants to kill him. Perhaps because he wants Nemesis to die as well.
f) In reference to Nemesis finding a loophole and thus a way to kill him, Jacob says ‘well when you do, I’ll be right here’. Jacob knows where he’ll be when Nemesis finds the loophole. How does Jacob know that Nemesis won’t find the loophole while he’s visiting Jack, Kate, Hurley, etc? This demonstrates that Jacob knows of future events(this is substantiated in other places as well).
g) Jacob eats food.
h) Jacob lives near the beach.

B) What We Know of Nemesis From The Beach

a) Nemesis asked to join Jacob.
b) Nemesis says he just ate but we can’t be sure that he did
c) Nemesis asks how the ship found the Island, thus he was not involved in bringing people to the Island. In fact, he seems rather displeased that there are visitors.
d) Nemesis claims that visitors to the Island will always fight, kill, corrupt and repeat. He is a fatalist. He does not believe in change, he is vowing that there won’t be change. He does not believe in progress.
e) Nemesis wants to kill Jacob. One would think there’s a motive here.
f) Nemesis pledges to find a loophole. Some think that he says ‘we’re’ going to find a loophole, some think he says ‘I’m going to find a loophole’. This is up for debate and I’m honestly not sure after several listens/viewings.
g)Nemesis lives inland.

C) Summary of Identifiable Traits of Jacob & Nemesis from ‘The Beach Scene’

a)Jacob
Knows when Nemesis will find the Loophole
Let’s the fish trap itself(personal choice)
Invites people to the Island
Believes in progress, change, and eventually an 'end'.
Believes man can progress
Lives by the beach

b)Nemesis
doesn't like visitors
believes in repetition, stagnation, and an unavoidable fate.
believes man will always be corruptible & murderous.
lives inland

c)Which gives us:
come to the island vs. don't come to the island, the ability to change vs. things always staying the same, freedom vs. fate. In each case Jacob represents the positive viewpoint and Nemesis represents the negative viewpoint. Jacob is light(good) and Nemesis is dark(bad). These are our two sides, and they've been on the show since the very beginning.

Now let's see what we can learn from the scene inside The Statue in The Incident.

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